**بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم**

يسعدني أن أبدأ موضوعا جديدا وهو في غاية الأهمية إذ أبحث فيه عن الجذور التاريخية لمكة المكرمة والبداية بكتاب الجغرافيا لبطليموس

I am glad to start a new topic very interest; i search in it the historical roots of Mecca , starting by "Geography" book of Ptolemy - about 85 AC 165 AC-.

The image below illustrates the page 137; places and towns of Felix Arabia; i have put three places in a red rectangle:

Zabram region longitude 69° 20' latitude 20°

Centos village longitude 69° 20' latitude 21° 30'

Thebe town longitude 69° 40' latitude 21°

So there was three places in the region of mecca one village and one town and Zabram region

يسعدني أن أبدأ موضوعا جديدا وهو في غاية الأهمية إذ أبحث فيه عن الجذور التاريخية لمكة المكرمة والبداية بكتاب الجغرافيا لبطليموس

I am glad to start a new topic very interest; i search in it the historical roots of Mecca , starting by "Geography" book of Ptolemy - about 85 AC 165 AC-.

The image below illustrates the page 137; places and towns of Felix Arabia; i have put three places in a red rectangle:

Zabram region longitude 69° 20' latitude 20°

Centos village longitude 69° 20' latitude 21° 30'

Thebe town longitude 69° 40' latitude 21°

So there was three places in the region of mecca one village and one town and Zabram region

**In his fifth book of geography -page 129- he gave the coordinates of Petra longitude 66° 45', latitude 30° 20' N**

The longitude difference between Petra and Centos village is 2° 35'

In our days longitude of Petra is 35° 26' E, if we add the 2° 35' difference we get 38° 01'

And the result: we are near to Mecca coordinates in our days which are:

Longitude: 39° 49' East

Latitude: 21° 25' north

An error in latitude of 5 minutes of arc is tolerable in that age.

An error of 1° 38' ( one degree 38 minutes of arc) in longitude also is very tolerable comparing to Ptolemy's error in defining the length of mediterranean sea which was 20 degrees of arc - His result was 62° and our days result is 42°-

I ask if Mecca was known as Centos village, if so that is a proof of the existence of the Holy city of islam in the second century and before that age.

The longitude difference between Petra and Centos village is 2° 35'

In our days longitude of Petra is 35° 26' E, if we add the 2° 35' difference we get 38° 01'

And the result: we are near to Mecca coordinates in our days which are:

Longitude: 39° 49' East

Latitude: 21° 25' north

An error in latitude of 5 minutes of arc is tolerable in that age.

An error of 1° 38' ( one degree 38 minutes of arc) in longitude also is very tolerable comparing to Ptolemy's error in defining the length of mediterranean sea which was 20 degrees of arc - His result was 62° and our days result is 42°-

I ask if Mecca was known as Centos village, if so that is a proof of the existence of the Holy city of islam in the second century and before that age.